The Aokigahara Forest is the most popular site for suicides in Japan. After the novel Kuroi Jukai was published, in which a young lover commits suicide in the forest, people started taking their own lives there at a rate of 50 to 100 deaths a year.
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Interesting and sad at the same time.
as a heart attack. Years ago there was this girl and she was bullied to death it was on the news for, maybe, two days. That in my mind isn’t proactive enough and now all these other kids are killing themselves. If the fight for the first kids who were bullied to death a little stronger maybe the…
(My first lenguage is not English so i don’t know if i’ll be able to explain myself right but i’ll try)
I’m with you on some points of course, i was one of those kids too but your logic is just not right. It’s NOT ONLY NOW that this issue is a problem my god, seriously, it has always been, the only thing is that now there’s more awareness mostly thanks to the media (thought you can’t expect the media to care cause they fucking don’t) and the new technologies among other things. I know it’s a cliché but times are always changing and people too, and for the better, i can assure you that, there are history books that prove it. And If this “8 gay kids commit suicide due to bulling” thing is the way to grab the attention of the people and start the change, who are you to say “How is that fair?”. Yes, mostly this subject is now being focused towards the lgbt community but there’s a huge reason for that and it’s the fact that in this time, right now, we are fighting for those lgbt rights, just like other rights against hate and discrimination were fought before. Looking at the whole picture, a thing you should do, It’s not just about “gays”, it’s about being bullied for being different. For being fat, or ugly, or weak, or black, or gay, for having 6 toes, or for whatever other crazy excuse bad people use to justify their fucked up behaviour.
Don’t complain about what wasn’t done in the past and focus your thinking and good will in the present and start to fight now (i remember reading a post you made a while telling something about your story and thinking it was really cool of you to do that) and maybe in 10 years (quoting you) kids killing themselves for feeling different will not be such an ‘epidemic’. Don’t you think?
Ok. I see your point. On the one hand, yes, you’re right it’s time to focus on stopping the problem and not dwelling in the past. On the other hand, I am looking at the story from different sides, but people have differing opinions on these things and even looking at it from all sides my opinion will most definitely be different than yours. 3 years ago when was the first time I heard of a girl killing herself from bullying we had all of the same technology. There were computers, and T.V.’s and phones with internet capabilities. Granted not everone was carrying around a mini version of a computer in their pocket but media and the source of getting media is virtually the same 3 years later. You made the point of this fight not being about being gay. It’s about being different. I know that. Believe me I do, and I think somewhere we’re getting lost in communication because that’s exactly the point I’m trying to make. I understand that the magnitude of the situation is far greater because of the short time span and the subject of the bullying, but bullying is bullying and everyone should be defended not just the gay kids. If my nieces and nephews were being bullied to the point of suicide I wouldn’t care whether it was because they were black or because they were too smart or too dumb or gay or straight. They are human and therefore deserve for their death to be defended. As I stated before, I was 1 second away from killing myself in middle school, So I think I’m entitled to ask the question “How is that fair?” because it’s not. It’s not fair to the kids before or the kids who just recently killed themselves. Their deaths could have been prevented. In ten years my nieces and nephews will be 16,14, 13, and 12. I hope that by then this issue will have faded a bit. BTW I don’t know how old you are but being able to present your side of an argument as an adult is a nice quality to have, but when you’re presenting it rule of thumb, present the facts and your opinions for your side of the issue, not the person.
I don’t understand the last sentence sorry…
I’m not trying to impose my thoughts onto you, i hope you have that clear. And i’m 23, btw :)
About the new technologies thing, i’m just saying it helps among other things, not that’s the only way.
I don’t know when was the first time i heard of someone killing himself due to abuse, but it was defenitly really long ago, plus i have felt that need myself some times just as you so..yeah. A LOT of people commit suicide in this world for multiple reason, that’s why almost 99,9% go unnoticed and nothing can be done in a “big” scale, and it fucking sucks. Now, there are these news everywhere about a lot of kids killing themselves for the same reason, being teased for being gay, that’s why it is grabbing people attention and they finally think “yep, something must be wrong and something must be done” (It’s like when there’s a isolated murder, no one pays attention, but when there are serial murders, then people get concerned. It’s not right but sadly that’s how it is). I think we are on the right path to start embracing the problem in a whole, (better now than never! And i bet there are groups and associations and stuff that address the problem of bullying and offer help since long ago) and the way to do that is to start telling kids that there’s nothing wrong with you if you are different and that is nothing wrong with others if they are different, kids and people have to know and comprehend that, and for example if due to this unfortunate recent chain of events celebrities and people around the world are posting videos telling their stories and saying “it gets better”, is a way to achieve that, then i’m super proud.
But bullying is bullying and everyone should be defended not just the gay kids. That’s absolutly right, but that’s what i’ve been trying to say to you, the fact that people are reacting to this DOES NOT mean that others are being discriminated or forgotten, i would say it’s the opposite. That’s why i don’t feel ok with your opinion, i know you are trying to defend all kids like i do, but at the same time you are saying “why now, why with them, its no fair” you are discriminating them. That’s how i feel.
And yes, i hope too that in the future this issue will be better.
pd: lol, i think its the first time i have written something this long in english. There are things i don’t say because i don’t know how! lame.